Sestak's Veteran and Service Supporters
posted by Seventh Watch at 7:35 PM
Friday, October 20, 2006
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FWIW, I've noticed a lot of people in my neighborhood have taken down Weldon signs since the FBI raids.
I absolutely LOVE the Veteran's ad.
And did I hear correctly that Curt again cited the support of the AFL-CIO during his debate today? Tsk tsk. SHould I be surprised at yet another lie?
Thought I also heard him say eh had support of the chamber, but according to Inky, Chamber has not and will not endorse someone.
I think Curt lives in a fantasyland.
The ad is awesome--by the way, who paid for the vets for weldon and firefighters for weldon signs? I could not see disclaimers when I drive by them. As to the firefighters, since the volunteer houses are all non-profits, aren't they precluded form politics? I just want to know--do the Rs in this County follow any rules?
"I could not see disclaimers when I drive by them."
You mean when you take them down from people's lawns and examine them?
It takes some nerve to call someone a Swift Boater(it is two words, people!!), someone who was never in the military, it also takes some ignorance. It also takes some nerve saying how he has never served. He was never in the military, but neither was Clinton, I didn't realize that was a prerequisite. He did however serve as a volunteer firefighter and fire chief in Marcus Hook. Putting his life on the line for ungrateful jerks like yourselves. I guess that is not enough for you guys, though, right? Because who needs volunteer firefighters?
Hey Anonymous-
Way to spin. The Sestak supporter's point is NOT that Weldon has never served his community as a firefighter. IT IS that Weldon has been criticizing (smearing) Sestak military record and that Weldon has no military record of his own.
If Sestak campaign had made up some lie smearing Weldon's firefighting, then firefighters would have a commercial about Joe's lack of firefighting. But in this case, Weldon campaign is spreading dirt about Joe's record without a single on-the-record name. Just "anonymous", like the vast majority of Weldon supporters.
Dave and the rest of the Sestak trolls are like a bunch of lemmings who are heading over the cliff into a sea of despair come election time,Democrats blog,Republicans vote.
As I'm knocking on doors in my area, lots of Republicans are saying they are staying home this election.
And lots of Rs are supporting Sestak.
David,
In the debate, Joe DID criticize Curt Weldon, saying he had never served a public service in his life. Among other things Weldon reminded him of his Firefighting. So, yes it was a "smear" attempt at Weldon.
I used to be a volunteer fireman in Malvern. About 2/3rds of the "volunteers" never fought a fire in their life, including some of the "chiefs." They sat around the firehouse, playing cards and shooting the bull. Some of them were grossly overweight and couldn't make it up and down the steps, let alone fight a fire. I'm not saying this was the case with Weldon, as I don't know about his record, but being a "volunteer fireman" in and of itself does not a hero make. It doesn't compare with military service.
Yeah, well I DO know about Weldon, I know he served in many fires. The biggest of which was an oil tanker in Marcus Hook, for three days, where 29 people were killed. He served there from when he was a kid with his Dad. I think it also depends on which type of military service. I don't know how many battles Sestak served in, if any, but I do know that when you are an Admiral your not fighting. So I guess simply being a person in the Navy is more "prestigious" then a firefighter, and does not matter about the content of your tenure.
Anonymous-
I was referring to the Sestak ads and the negative pieces that Weldon/RNC has been putting out against Joe's MILITARY record. Weldon has NOT served in the military, yet he has criticized Joe's record of performance in that service. Joe has never criticized Weldon's firefighting.
To imply that Joe doesn't know that Weldon was a fireman is silly. Weldon spent $6000 on plastic fireman hats this campaign and he drives around in his own personal firetruck. We get it Curt. But, Weldon WAS NOT a fireman these past 31 years and Sestak WAS in the military service.
For the past 20 years, Weldon's been serving himself, family, and political cronies. After the Justice Department finishes, he may be serving another 20 years (and again, at taxpayer expense).
Yeah, well I DO know about Weldon, I know he served in many fires. The biggest of which was an oil tanker in Marcus Hook, for three days, where 29 people were killed.
You're just repeating what you read in the newspaper, right down to the same statistics. Weldon said this in yesterday's debate.
I'd like to see some independent corroboration about his alleged firefighting history. Weldon has been caught in so many lies this past week, I don't believe anything he says until it's been verified by an independent source.
Sestak served our country in the military. Weldon didn't. Sestak was willing to put his life on the line for his country. Weldon didn't. Sestak served with honor. No amount of spin will undo that fact. Weldon and his spinners defame every vet who has served this country by trashing someone's military record.
>I do know that when you are
>an Admiral your not fighting.
You don't know much, do you?
You don't start out as an admiral. It takes years and years to reach that rank.
Sestak started at the bottom and worked his way up. He was aboard ship for many years and put his life on the line for his country. He served his country proudly for three decades. Only unpatriotic, un-American hypocrites would attempt to question a man's service and sacrifice for his country.
"You're just repeating what you read in the newspaper, right down to the same statistics. Weldon said this in yesterday's debate."
Im saying it because it is the truth, you guys believe everything else you read in the papers about him, why not believe the good stuff? You are a freaking hypocrite.
Anonymous-
You complained that "So I guess simply being a person in the Navy is more "prestigious" then a firefighter, and does not matter about the content of your tenure."
First of all, to most people, being in the Navy for 31 years and rising to one of the top ranks IS more prestigious than being a firefighter for a few years.
Second, you guys like to tell how 30 years ago, Weldon put himself between two raging fires. Great. What's Weldon done the past 20 years? Oh, right, he's placed his pockets between his duty and his vote.
Third, no one is saying that Weldon was not a good man, in the distant PAST. However, his votes/positions in the present are not as noble.
Does anyone know who is paying for the first responders for weldon signs or the labor for weldon signs?????
Im saying it because it is the truth
When you repeat something, word for word, sentence for sentence from the newspaper, it's obvious you just did a cut-and-paste job. Don't whine when people catch you plagarizing red-handed. It's obviously not your own personal experience, other than something you copied word-for-word out of the newspaper. D'oh.
If you're going to fabricate something, at least have the brains to rewrite it to make it sound like a personal experience.
"If you're going to fabricate something, at least have the brains to rewrite it to make it sound like a personal experience."
I really hope you are not this stupid, how am I going to take someone elses story and make it into my own personal experience?
I have seen the pictures of the fire, and if you really still do not believe the Congressman, then go to the Marcus Hook Firehouse and look to see that he was signed in for that particular call.
who cares--25 of 30 years ago. No doubt at one time Curt might have been a good, civic-minded citizen, wiht the right priorities.
Curt's been in Congress too long and his priorities have been skewed. He is running based n his belief that he is entitled to continue on because he did lots of favors over the years for his friends and family. He has lost his way--He is not the same man that fought that fire. That man was more concerned about the oublic good than his entitlement ot a position or his fammily and friends getting rich.
Also, Curt must think that Admirals are such from the time they are born--Sestak graduated form the naval academy a long time ago--and was in harms way much more recently than 30 years ago.
Curt needs to stop being so sensitive about the game of politics. He can dish it but can't take it. It was okay for him to promote the false notion that Sestak was "fired" or "demoted"--if Curt has proof, lets see it. And don't give me that other guy who works for the defense contractor that contributes to Weldon (even he didn't say that).
A fair reading of Joe's ad does not imply that Curt did ducked "public" service as Wedlon tries to spin--he's been in Congress for 20 years (Curt, based on the current allegations, it appears you may have forgotten but a Congressman is in the public, not family and friends, service area). The point I believe the ad you citicized is that the Weldonites summarily discount Sestak's 30 years of naval service, but Weldon never served in the military (the Sestak supporters' criticisms are fair game based on the criticism levelled against Sestak for not being physically present in the district for 31 years while serving in the Navy).
Can November 7 get here so me and my fellow-republicans can stop getting the Weldon phone calls and cast our vote for sestak.
Do you mean the Naval academy that his father went to, and got Joe into?
And graduated 2nd in his class?
My point is lazy or not, best or worst in ability, Joe would still
have gotten into the college (or something similar) due to his father's position. My comments are not intended to reflect upon (or imply) Joe's ability or lack thereof, but rather the level of patronage that prevents a true
evaluation of Joe's skills.
WTF are you talking about?
You ask for a true evaluation of Joe's skills. How do you think he graduated 2nd in his class at the Naval Academy? He had a good academic record in high school before that. After the academy, he got a PhD from Havard.
What does the GOP have? A president whose entire life has been handed to him as patronage. And a congressman that doles out patronage to his friends and family and votes to the highest bidder.
Joe's education record is fine and dandy but that doesnt mean things werent easy for him. Lets stop making it seam like Joe was in a trench somewhere with a rifle. I am a Navy reservist and was active duty. I served on a ship and now I serve in a Combat duty. I served with an officer under investigation for the same reason Joe was fired. "Bad command climate". I think you should all understand that the Navy has not changed that much over the years and it is customary to let a commanding officer to lead in any way he chooses as long as he follow regulations and noone is hurt. The officer I served with had a command suicide record that was 3 times higher then ever before and several senior enlisted and officers filed greivances. SINCE we can assume that there is no partisan reason why this would occur in a command it follows that one would have to have a total disregard for the well being of his men/women to be investigated for or fired for such a crime. I know Joe Sestaks type. I served under his type! And I would never vote for a man who cares nothing for his people. To Joe sailors must have been stepping stones to get to a higher vista. It is a shame that a man who was fired for that crime is still allowed to call himself a veteran. But then again Kerry does and Joe is still a better man than him. If you want to know why I am voting for a man who never served 1 day in the military against a man who served a lifetime then heres your answer.
Look up Curt Weldons voting record (Just google it) and choose military topics. He votes the same way any Veteran who still respects the military and cares about the men in it would.
Joe doesnt have a record to compare to in congress but if you look at some of the statements and reasons why he got fired then Im sure youll realize that Joe votes for Joe...to hell with anyone else in the military.
Lots of speculation and distortions in the above post. Saying something like "I know Joe Sestaks type" is complete speculation and nonsense. We won't allow these swiftboat tactics to be unchallenged. Weldon's military voting record includes sending the US into Iraq and putting in earmarks for his campaign contributors and benefactors of his family and friends. That's a lousy record and one that should get him ousted...finally.
For those who questioned if the the Firefighters for Weldon signs had a disclaimer. The signs have on the bottom in mirco script "Paid For by Weldon Victory Comittee".
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